Wissenschaft vs. Bibel

[Mafiaaffe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oxfV...eature=related

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[Mafiaaffe]

[ScoR]

Wenn man sich so die letzten Beiträge anguckt:

Bilder sagen mehr als tausend Worte

[Superuser]

Ich war so frei

[M3nTo5]

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Feelin' honored

[Superuser]

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und selbst dort, an den Stellen wo es stimmen sollte, sollte man sich fragen WARUM ? ER das getan bzw. zugelassen hat

[M3nTo5]

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Und wenn ich als Ungläubiger aus der Bibel vorlese, ist alles Murks was ich erzähle?

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und selbst dort, an den Stellen wo es stimmen sollte, sollte man sich fragen WARUM ? ER das getan bzw. zugelassen hat

Ja, gute Frage.
Warum betet ein Überlebender aus hundert Toten zu Gott und dankt ihm?
Warum hat ER 99 Menschen verrecken lassen und wird dann noch angebetet?

[Nomad]

hey

nun ja wie immanuel kant schon gesagt hat, um aufs thema zurückzukommen
"man muss sein wissen beiseite schieben, um dem glauben platz zu machen" (nicht wörtlich, aber sinngemäß)
demnach würde ich sagen, dass es jedermanns sache ist, an gott zu glauben oder nicht, je nachdem wie sehr derjenige gewillt ist, sein wissen außer acht zu lassen.
ich persönlich bin eher Agnostiker, da ich jegliche theologische fragen für nicht erklärlich halte und sowieso wie shcon zu anfang gesagt eher streitthema sind.

edit: M3nTo5 ... nein, vielmehr glaub ich, dass du aufgrund deiner eher zweifelhaften ansicht besser analysieren kannst

gruß flo

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Nummer / Zusammenfassung / Vers / Anzahl der Morde

1 God drowns everyone of earth
(except Noah and his family) Genesis 7:23 ?
2 God rains fire and brimstone on
Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. Genesis 19:24 ?
3 Lot's wife for looking back Genesis 19:26 1
4 Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" Genesis 38:7,
1 Chronicles 2:3 1
5 Onan for spilling his seed Genesis 38:10 1
6 A 7 year, world-wide famine Genesis 41:25-54 ?
7 7th Egyptian Plague: Hail Exodus 9:25 ?
8 God kills every Egyptian firstborn child. Exodus 12:29-30 ?
9 God drowns Egyptian army Exodus 14:8-26 600
10 God and Moses help Joshua
kill the Amalekites Exodus 17:13 ?
11 Israelites for dancing naked around Aaron's
golden calf Exodus 32:27-28, 35 3000
12 God plagued the people because of
the calf that Aaron made Exodus 32:35 ?
13 Aaron's sons for offering strange
fire before the Lord Leviticus 10:1-3;
Numbers 3:4, 26:61 2
14 A blasphemer Leviticus 24:10-23 4
15 God burned people to death for complaining Numbers 11:1 ?
16 God sent "a very great plague" for
complaining about the food. Numbers 11:33 ?
17 God killed ten scouts with a plague. Numbers 14:35-36 10
18 A man who gathered firewood on the sabbath Numbers 15:32-36 ?
19 Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Numbers 16:27 3
20 Burned to death for offering incense Numbers 16:35 250
21 For complaining Numbers 16:49 14,700
22 Massacre of the Aradites Numbers 21:1-3 ?
23 For complaining about the lack of
food and water, God sent fiery serpents
to bite the people. Numbers 21:6 ?
24 God delivers the Bashanites into
Moses' hands and Moses kills everyone
"until there was none left alive." Numbers 21:34-35 ?
25 Phinehas impales a mixed-race couple
having sex Numbers 25:6-8 2
26 Israelites for "committing whoredom
with the daughters of Moab" Numbers 25:9 24,000
27 Midianite massacre
(32,000 virgins were kept alive) Numbers 31:1-35 ?
28 God kills the entire Israelite army Deuteronomy 2:14-16 ?
29 The slaughter of the Zamzummim, Horim,
Avim, and the Caphtorim Deuteronomy 2:21-22 ?
30 God hardened the king of Heshbon's
heart so that the Israelites could massacre
his people. (included several cities) Deuteronomy 2:33-34 ?
31 All the men, women, and children in 60 cities Deuteronomy 3:3-6 ?
32 Massacre of Jericho Joshua 6:21 ?
33 Achan (and his his sons and daughters)
for taking the accursed thing Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26 1
34 The Ai Massacre Joshua 8:1-25 12,000
35 God slaughters the Amorites and
even chases them "along the way" as
they try to escape. Joshua 10:10-11 ?
36 Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs
their dead bodies on trees Joshua 10:24-26 5
37 Massacre of 7 kingdoms Joshua 10:28-42 ?
38 The remaining kingdoms Joshua 11:8-12 10,000
39 Massacre of the Anakim Joshua 11:20-21 ?
40 God delivers the Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4 ?
41 The Jerusalem Massacre Judges 1:8 ?
42 Ten Massacres, a wedding, and some
God-proof iron chariots Judges 1:9-25 ?
43 The LORD delivered Chushanrishathaim Judges 3:7-10 ?
44 Ehud delivers a message
from God: a knife in the belly Judges 3:15-22 1
45 God delivers 10,000 Moabites Judges 3:28-29 10,000
46 Barak and God Massacre the Canaanites Judges 4:14 ?
47 Jael pounds a tent stake through
a sleeping man's head Judges 4:18-25 1
48 God forces Midianite soldiers to
kill each other judges 7:22, 8:10 120,000
49 A city is massacred and 1000 burn to death because
of God's evil spirit Judges 9:23-57 ? 194,580
50 The Ammonite massacre Judges 11:29-33 ? 194,580
51 Jephthah's daughter Judges 11:34-39 1 194,581
52 The spirit of the Lord comes on Samson and he
murders 30 men for their clothes Judges 14:19 30 194,611
53 The Spirit of the Lord comes
upon Samson and he kills 1000 men
with the jawbone of an ass Judges 15:14-15 1,000
54 Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism Judges 16:27-30 3,000
55 "The Lord smote Benjamin" Judges 20:35-37 65,100
56 God kills Eli's sons 1 Samuel 2:25, 34; 4:11 2
57 God smote three cities with
hemorrhoids in their secret parts 1 Samuel 5:1-12 ?
58 For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Samuel 6:19 50,070
59 The LORD thundered with a great
thunder upon the Philistines 1 Samuel 7: ?
60 The Ammonite Massacre
(and another God-inspired body part message) 1 Samuel 7:11-13 ?
61 Jonathan's very first slaughter
(not counting the one before) 1 Samuel 14:12 20
62 God forces the Philistine
soldiers to kill each other. 1 Samuel 14:20 ?
63 The Amalekite Genocide 1 Samuel 15:2-3 ?
64 Samuel hacks Agag to pieces before the Lord 1 Samuel 15:32-33 1
65 God delivers the Philistines. 1 Samuel 23:2-5 ?
66 "The Lord smote Nabal." 1 Samuel 25:38 1
67 David spends the day killing Amalekites 1 Samuel 30:17 ?
68 God has the Philistines kill Israelite soldiers 1 Samuel 31:6,
1 Chronicles 10:6 ?
69 Saul and his three sons 1 Samuel 31:6,
1 Chronicles 10:6 4
70 God delivers the Philistines
to David (from the front) 2 Samuel 5:19, 25 ?
71 God delivers the Philistines
to David (from behind) 2 Samuel 5:19, 25 ?
72 Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Samuel 6:6-7,
1 Chronicles 13:9-10 1
73 David and Bathsheba's baby boy 2 Samuel 12:14-18 1
74 God sent a three-year famine because
of something Saul did. 2 Samuel 21:1 ?
75 Saul's two sons and five grandsons hung
up before the Lord 2 Samuel 21:6-9 7
76 God kills 70,000 men because
David did a census that God told him to do 2 Samuel 24:15,
1 Chronicles 21:14 70,000
77 A lion is sent by God to kill a prophet for
believing another prophet's lie 1 Kings 13:1-24 1
78 Jeroboam's son 1 Kings 14:17 1
79 Jeroboam's family 1 Kings 15:29 ?
80 Baasha's family and friends 1 Kings 16:11-12 ?
81 The first God-assisted slaughter of the Syrians 1 Kings 20:20-21
82 God killed 100,000 Syrians for calling
him a God of the hills 1 Kings 20:28-29 100,000
83 God makes a wall fall on
Syrian soldiers 1 Kings 20:30 27,000
84 God sent a lion to kill a man for
not smiting a prophet 1 Kings 20:35-36 1
85 Ahab for not killing a captured king 1 Kings 20:42, 22:35 1
86 51 men are burned to death by God for
asking Elijah to come down from his hill 2 Kings 1:10 51
87 Another 51 men are burned to death by
God for asking Elijah to come
down from his hill 2 Kings 1:12 51
88 Ahaziah is killed for asking the wrong god 2 Kings 1:2-4, 17;
2 Chronicles 22:7-9 1
89 God sent two bears to kill 42 children for
making fun of Elisha's bald head 2 Kings 2:23-24 42
90 God delivers the Moabites 2 Kings 3:18-25 ?
91 God calls for a seven year famine. 2 Kings 8:1 ?
92 Jehoram of Israel 2 Kings 9:24 1
93 Jezebel 2 Kings 9:33-37 1
94 Ahab's 70 sons 2 Kings 10:6-10 70
95 Ahab's hometown family and friends 2 Kings 10:11 ?
96 Ahab's family in Samaria 2 Kings 10:17 ?
97 God sent lions to kill "some"
foreigners for not fearing him enough 2 Kings 17:25-26 ?
98 Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 2 Kings 19:35;
Isaiah 37:36 185,000
99 God caused Sennacherib to be
killed by his sons 2 Kings 19:37 1
100 Just another holy war 1 Chronicles 5:18-22 ?
101 God killed a half million Israelite soldiers 2 Chronicles 13:15-17 500,000
102 Jeroboam 2 Chronicles 13:20 1
103 The Lord smote the Ethiopians. 2 Chronicles 14:9-14 1,000,000
104 Everyone helped to destroy each other 2 Chronicles 20:22-25 ?
105 God kills Jehoram of Judah by making
his bowels fall out 2 Chronicles 21:14-19 1
106 God kills Jehoram's sons 2 Chronicles 22:1 ?
107 Joash, the princes of Judah,
and the Judean army 2 Chronicles 24:20-25 ?
108 God destroys Amaziah 2 Chronicles 25:20-22 ?
109 God delivered Ahaz into the hand
of the king of Syria 2 Chronicles 28:5 ?
110 120,000 soldiers killed for forsaking God 2 Chronicles 28:6 120,000
111 God delivered the Israelites into the
hand of the Chaldeans. 2 Chronicles 36:16-17 ?
112 God and Satan kill Job's children and servants Job 1:1-19 10
113 Ezekiel's wife Ezekiel 24:15-18 1
114 Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:1-10 2
115 Herod Acts 12:23 1
116 Jesus Eph 5:2,Heb 10:10,1 Pet 1:19-20,Rev 13:8 1
Total: 2,316,057

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